I have always struggled with the hymn Amazing Grace. It has some wonderful imagery in it, yet the playfully twee 3/4 time signature always seems to be too much of a juxtaposition for me; it's to 'nice'!
Be Thou My Vision was one of the first 'hymns' that I found real power in, and that was before we all started playing it in 4/4 with lots of drums. When that revolution came though, so many people found new life in the old song, simply because someone 'messed' with it.
There are lot's of worship leaders who have done their version of old hymns, but only a few have been different enough to be remembered, so when I read my American Friend's blog on some thing Chris Tomin has done, well, I look forward to it with great anticipation...
So I guess I need to 'See the Morning' to see how well it works!
I have to agree, I think his version is great on the CD - I am however reluctant to lead worship with it as I am concerned people would be significantly thrown.
Great song. I love the last bunch of acoustic tracks on the cd.
Its not so much the shift from 3/4 to 4/4 thats an issue for me - its more about the use of new "bits" in between ( I guess you may call it a new chorus ). Then there are new words which are either a long lost part of an original or new ones he has made up.
See here (should be all one entry with no spaces) - Brenton Brown has put weight on as well since I knew him dow in the Vineyard in London (not that I am as fat as fat can be hehehe).
Thanks for the link. I was referring to Be Thou My Vision when I was talking about the time signature change, Id didn't realise that Amazing Grace (MCAG) was in 4/4 too.
I have done amazing grace in 4/4 and I think it works so much better - in fact I wouldn't do it in its original signature anyway. This is down to two reasons - most of the songs that I would compose into a worship set are based around 4/4, and secondly - I think it sounds better from a congregational point of view.
The other song I like doing out of signature (but aint done it for a long while) is Here Is Love (Vast as the Ocean...). This is oringally 6/8 I believe but try to do it in 2/4 (or is it 4/2 - cannot recall- Im not a music techy) at all.
We did a very gospel-ly version of Amazing Grace at church one evening service which sounded nice but wasn't very congregation-y. Just thought I'd share that!
sounds interesting.... shame you have to buy it to hear it!
ReplyDeleteEvery time I've seen "Chris's" written in your post I've read it as "Christ's"
Hey Phil,
ReplyDeleteNice to know I've still got some readers out there. Hope you enjoyed your holiday (it looks like you did).
I personally was skeptical about this song, and the new Tomlin album in general. I think maybe I was just a little burned out on Tomlin.
The Amazing Grace track was worth the price of the CD for me. I hope you are blessed by it.
Your American friend,
Jeff
I have to agree, I think his version is great on the CD - I am however reluctant to lead worship with it as I am concerned people would be significantly thrown.
ReplyDeleteGreat song. I love the last bunch of acoustic tracks on the cd.
Jeff, the blogring lives! Thanks for your comments.
ReplyDeleteMonty, I've yet to here it, but if we can switch 'Be Thou My Vision' from 3/4 to 4/4 can't we add this in too?
Phil
Phil
ReplyDeleteIts not so much the shift from 3/4 to 4/4 thats an issue for me - its more about the use of new "bits" in between ( I guess you may call it a new chorus ). Then there are new words which are either a long lost part of an original or new ones he has made up.
See here (should be all one entry with no spaces) - Brenton Brown has put weight on as well since I knew him dow in the Vineyard in London (not that I am as fat as fat can be hehehe).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_4lIik9D8
&search=chris%20tomlin%20amazing%
20grace
Dave
Hey Monty,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link. I was referring to Be Thou My Vision when I was talking about the time signature change, Id didn't realise that Amazing Grace (MCAG) was in 4/4 too.
Maybe you'll try it and let me know?
I can see us doing it.
I have done amazing grace in 4/4 and I think it works so much better - in fact I wouldn't do it in its original signature anyway. This is down to two reasons - most of the songs that I would compose into a worship set are based around 4/4, and secondly - I think it sounds better from a congregational point of view.
ReplyDeleteThe other song I like doing out of signature (but aint done it for a long while) is Here Is Love (Vast as the Ocean...). This is oringally 6/8 I believe but try to do it in 2/4 (or is it 4/2 - cannot recall- Im not a music techy) at all.
We did a very gospel-ly version of Amazing Grace at church one evening service which sounded nice but wasn't very congregation-y. Just thought I'd share that!
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